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ST. JOHN |
Origin: English
Coat of Arms: Blue on a red stripe at the top two gold stars. Crest: A falcon. Motto: Data fata secutus. Motto Translated: Following my destiny. |
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FALCON: Is
derived from the Latin "falx", meaning sickle, a reference to the
Falcon's wing shape in flight. Egyptians associated the Falcon
with the 'Eye of Horus'. The god Horus was believed to appear in
the form of Pharaoh's Falcon or as a Falcon-headed god. The
mythology states he could see everything at once because one eye was
the sun and the other was the moon. It is written that Falcons
were permitted to ride on Pharaoh's nape as his protector and divine
spirit. Falcons were used in a royal sport known as
falconry. Is the art of training Falcons (or hawks) to pursue and
attack wild fowl or game; falconry started in ancient China and Persia
and soon became prevalent with the royals of ancient Egypt; the Falcon
was associated with the Egyptian sun god 'RA' and later the Christians
adopted it as an
emblem of the saviour. A venerable symbol of majesty and power,
heraldic
writers add that the Falcon denotes someone eager, or hot in the
pursuit
of an object much desired; if seated on its 'rest' or perch it may
signify
a bearer who is ready and serviceable for high affairs." [source ARMORIAL GOULD HERALDRY LIBRARY] |
"Falcon or Hawk. In Heraldry is al ways represented close, if not mentioned to the contrary, and usually borne with bells on its legs, when it is termed a Falcon belled. If represented with hood, virols, or rings, and leashes, then it is said to be hooded, jessed, and leashed, and the colours must be named." |
Origin:
English First found in Oxfordshire where they were seated from very early times and were granted lands by Duke William of Normandy, their liege Lord, for their distinguished assistance at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 A.D. Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: Alpheus Spencer St. John who settled in Canada in 1835; John St. John who settled in Virginia in 1654; Thomas St. John who settled in Philadelphia in 1820. |
I am familiar with this website and one of the people associated with it. If this is whom I think it might be, it's nice to see you here once again. That particular coat of arms isn't the EXACT replica but pretty close to it. As for it probably not being the shield of the family of Matthias I wouldn't rush to that conclusion. One question that no historian or genealogist has been able to answer yet is, how did an engraving of that coat of arms wind up on a slate tablet for the tomb of Capt. Joseph St. John in 1756(250 years ago)? The reasonable explanation is that this family somehow had a tie in with the Bletso line and what that tie in is? It seems entirely to coincidental to me.There is a photograph of it listed in the St.John Genealogy, it's a broken tab but if you're familiar with the shield you can see the motto "Data Fata Secutus". |
The
full
mantle consists of the shield displaying the arms that was given to the
person bearing this surname; a banner with surname; a helmet; and family
crest [if known]. See a sample of full mantle by - at right.
Normally the crest is displayed atop the helmet. To order a full
mantle with
coat of arms and family crest click here |
Sample Coat of Arms - Full |
Am looking for information on the line of Thomas St. John husband of
Mary Hayworten (Howerton, relict of J. Day; relict of Thomas St. John)
wife of John Billingsley. Having sons William and Thomas II St. John; William being married twice, 1st wife unknown but had son William St. John Jr. and second wife was Elizabeth Billinsley (Relict of Tyler, as ell as William St. John) issuance of underage sons, Richard, Thomas, James, Isaac, Abraham and John It is from this line, Thomas St. John, husband of Mary Hayworten (Howerton, relict of J. Day; relict of Thomas St. John) wife of John Billingsley, that recent http://www.dnafamilytree.com/ for the SURNAME OF St. John has revealed the following results: 1. The administrator of the St. John surname site paid for a man in England by the name of Anthony St. John to have his DNA tested, so that it might help the administrator who decends from the Mathias St. John and Mary Tinker; trying to find out and to indicate whether "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family" included the said Mathias St. John and Mary Tinker of England. Conclusion: They were not a match in the 12/12 strand test, so Mathieas St. John and Mary Tinker decendants are not part of "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family". 2. The administrator indicated that when I had my son's DNA tested that we were the first in the United States to test positive to our English Cousin, Anthony St. John of "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family", and the administrator stated so... Since then we now have 3 DNA, my son's included that meet the 12/12 exact match to "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family". |
This family is unique in that our St. Johns are really DePort's, and
decend from Adam DePort, who had his sons names not to be DePort, but
after his grandmother, who was the last of the line of the Originial
William St. John who came to England with William, the Conqueror. He
attended the Army as Grand Master of the Artillery, and Supervisor of
the Waggons and Carriages; for which Reason, the Horse Hames or Collar
was born for his Cognizance. (Quote: Early History of the St. John
Family, reprinted from an ancient book. published by London: The Mitre
Press, Mitre Chambers, Mitre Street, E.C.3) 3. Our English cousins are helping with indentification of OUR Thomas and Mary St. John and where our Thomas St. John fits into the line of Bledsoe, since that is the line that Anthony St. John decends and thus the 12/12 EXACT MATCH for three St. Johns are based on. You will either decend from a Bledsoe or a Lydiard Tregoze. But, not any of Mathias St. John and Mary Tinker. In all of this, I hope that I have not said anything that would confuse or render a no hope of connection to any St. John. My husband's line begins with Thomas St. John I, William St. John Sr., His Majesty Surveyor & Auditor General James St. John I, Esq, James St. John, Esq Surveyor, James St. John, Esq (Minute Man), James C. St. John, Thomas B. St. John, William Edward St. John, Gilliam Bluford St. John, Samuel Bluford St. John, Sr., Samuel Bluford St. John, Jr., Adam Bluford St. John We have our own private website: http://www.stantonstjohn.net GUEST Login: Justvisitingguest Guest PW: stantonstjohn (this account has limited access) FYI: Our St. Johns held Title to the Village of Stanton as "The Baron of Stanton"; later the villiage name was changed to Stanton-St. John. It just soo happens that my maiden name is: Stanton Kindly, Carolann Stanton St. John |
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